[opal_migration_leads] [EXTERNAL SENDER] Re: OhioLINK, Rapido, and Due Dates

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Hi all,

Now that people have brought their insights and perspectives to mine and Terri’s questions, I still have one simple question:  what is the due date that the patron sees?

Ex Libris has told us that there’s a week added on to the loan period on the front end and the back end of the loan period.  Does this mean that for a 3 week loan period, the due date is set for 5 weeks from the time the item is checked out from the loaning institution?  This doesn’t seem to make much sense as it means that added week on the back end for travel won’t accomplish this task.  Will, instead, the due date that the patron sees be 5 weeks minus 7 days, but the actual due date is at the end of the 5 weeks?

Am I making sense to everyone?  Am I overthinking things?  Please let me know if you think I am and have some insight to what is going on.

Thanks for listening to my ramblings!  Have a great day!

Laurence

Laurence Skirvin [M.A., M.L.I.S.]
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My understanding was that the due date is generated when the loaning library/institution sends/scans the item out. Not sure if that could be overridden by the borrowing institution, or only the lending institution? Fulfillment is not my forte though!

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John Carroll University
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 12:13 PM Skirvin, Laurence T. <SkirvinLT at hiram.edu<mailto:SkirvinLT at hiram.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

So Terri had the following question and was under this impression:

Will due dates not populate automatically at check out as they do now? Unless I misinterpreted what was said (and it’s possible since I’m not hearing clearly), I have the impression that library staff will need to calculate due dates for items when they are checked out.

Did we get an answer to this question that both her and I missed?  If any of y’all know, please let me know.

Thanks again,

Laurence

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I would hope there are workarounds, if not systemic changes, that could be made to make sure patrons are not shorted on their loan periods. Like extending the due date or whatever.

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Subject: Re: [opal_migration_leads] OhioLINK, Rapido, and Due Dates

Hi All,

This process definitely seems different from Sierra.  In talking with Lauren, the current set up they have for Rapido seems to be, for example, a 7 day travel time, a 21 day checkout time, and a 7 day return travel time.  They build in travel time to the front and back of the process to take that into account so as to not cut too much into the checkout period, but the time waiting for the patron to pick it up does seem to be an area that could cause some issues.  I wonder if Ohiolink would be interested in having 10 day travel time on the front end to allow patrons time to pick the items up?  Alma is always an adventure!

Adam

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 11:09 AM Amy Leoni <aleoni at franciscan.edu<mailto:aleoni at franciscan.edu>> wrote:
It sounded like as soon as a book leaves it’s home library, it’s checked out to the requestor or that’s when the due date is set—even though it still has to travel from, say, Franciscan to Hiram, and then wait for the student to pick it up—all the while their loan period is decreasing. So a three week loan period might end up being just two weeks. But maybe I’m wrong. Thoughts?

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Hi everyone!

Is there anyone who was in the Rapido Wave 4 or 5 meeting today explain exactly what’s going on due date situation that folks were upset about in the meeting?  I missed what started the conversation about that and found it incredibly bizarre that this is the first time the issue has come up so far.  I was talking about this with my coworker Terri, and she had an understanding of it but wasn’t sure if she was correct about it.

Thanks,

Laurence

Laurence Skirvin [M.A., M.L.I.S.]
Technical Services Librarian
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Hiram College Library
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